Posts by The Fall Guy

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Are the G.B.members really good business people ?

by smiddy3 in

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friends

if i was an author of a book i think i would be over the moon if i was guaranteed a sale of around 5 million or more books for my work.. the jehovah`s witnesses have over 8 million members plus relatives that are fringe dwellers who come to the memorial once a year ,.

so what a gold mine they have been sitting on as a publishing house .. why didn`t they keep publishing books for the faithful ,they could have even upped the price , and the faithful would have paid especially in prosperous country`s in the west.. they could have milked this venture for years to come as the faithful would have bought anything they would have published .. and their prophets (profits) would have soared ,literally and figuratively for many more years to come ..

The Fall Guy

Smiddy, you raise very relevant questions and points which have not yet been truthfully clarified by the org.

The cult had a goose which was laying golden eggs, but what has it been doing to that goose over recent years, and continuing to do so even more? Plucking it naked and carving it up - big time!

My belief and contention is unchanged - the WTBTS/CCoJW has been forced into this unprecedented financial "great tribulation" by Wall Street creditors who were quite willing to bankrupt the religion after 2008. The org's draconian cost-cutting measures (Printing, People, & Property) and money-grabbing scams cannot be dismissed with "making the best use of our resources."

The cult was on its death-bed, and sold its "soul" in order to keep living longer. I'll hold my hands up if/when evidence is produced which says otherwise.

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Xmas, love it or leave it??

by DATA-DOG in

i have to say that i’m not enjoying the xmas season.

i have no emotional ties and i’m spending money that i have not set aside for xmas during a slow work season for my trade.. i’m not happy about it, because it’s foolish to spend money when you aren’t making any.

then i feel like i’m expected to do all this, and to be happy about spending money and time on persons that i’m not that involved with.

The Fall Guy

Hey Data-Dog, you're not alone. When I was still an active JW, one of my closest friends (Catholic) said that he hated the whole Christmas charade and then said, half-joking half serious, "I wish I was a J.W."

Most nationalities and millions/billions of non-Christians and atheists "celebrate" a religious ritual which has no Biblical justification, but who cares, it's a feel-good party-time and a very brief period of escapism from the everyday/harsher realities of life before and after Christmas day. Bah, humbug!

Commercially, Christmas is the lifeblood of many businesses.

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Child sexual abuse suspect arrested in T.O.

by Tahoe in

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friends

https://www.vcstar.com/story/news/2018/12/13/child-sexual-abuse-suspect-arrested-t-o/2305199002/ .

a 69-year-old thousand oaks man facing multiple sexual abuse charges by the ventura county district attorney’s office was arrested last week, authorities said.. steven skyler abbott was arrested dec. 6 after months of investigation into the reported sexual abuse of two thousand oaks girls, according to the ventura county sheriff’s office.

in november, the ventura county district attorney’s office filed multiple felony sexual abuse charges against abbott, including two counts of continuous sexual abuse, one count of lewd acts upon a child and one count of forcible lewd acts upon a child.. he is also facing multiple felony enhancements and special allegations related to his charges.. the investigation began in september, when the sheriff’s agency received a report of suspected child crimes.. a 16-year-old victim alleged that she was sexually abused by abbott when she was between the ages of 5 and 11, sheriff’s officials said.. sexual assault unit detectives subsequently identified a second, 24-year-old victim who reported that abbott had abused her when she was between the ages of 3 and 7, authorities said.. the sheriff’s agency said the victims and their families had come into contact with abbott through the kingdom hall of jehovah’s witnesses in newbury park.. investigators submitted their findings to prosecutors, who filed felony sexual abuse charges against abbot on nov. 16, officials said.. on nov. 28, an arrest warrant was issued for abbott.. the suspect was eventually arrested at his home on dec. 6 and booked into ventura county jail.

The Fall Guy

The following perverted logic of the WTBTS charlatans cannot be reasoned on, challenged or questioned by judicial committee elders:

If a JW paedophile denies raping a JW child and there are not two witnesses, you cannot do anything to him, so leave it in Jehovah's hands.

If two JW adults spend several hours under the same roof, but deny anything improper occurred, you can assume that fornication must have occurred. As such, hit them with both barrels. Two-witness rule not required here.

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New Members since 2018

by Paul Bonanno in

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friends

nearly 2018 is over few more days to go.

it would be nice to know how many of you have joined or left the org during 2018?.

i would like to wish you all best wishes in your journey towards freedom.

The Fall Guy

Totally cut the cord in 2018. No more "cover" visits to the KH every few weeks/months. :)

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Cart preaching question

by asp59 in

i just wonder how the elders see the cart witnessing they always want to show co when he comes to visit how congregation covers the territory.

but there must be a great problem with that now as pioneers prefer sitting drinking coffee beside a cart.

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The Fall Guy

C.O.'s and their wives must envy the pioneers' laid back ministry - no walking around for hours on end knocking on doors, getting no reply, getting abuse, or getting abject apathy.

@ smiddy - JW's should also be grateful to "Christendom" for providing them with the collated scriptures, (Bible) the marriage ceremony & its rituals & traditions, and last but not least, the wonderful "new light" that there is no such thing as the "evil slave." What a relief that must have been for the publishers!

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"Are you the plumber?"

by Jourles in

i've been debating whether or not to post this story simply because the org knows who i am (post history from pre-'05 will tell you all you need to know), and i'm not sure if they would give my parents shit if they knew what transpired earlier this summer.

but you know what, i don't care what they do, because my mom is dying of stage iv cancer and i feel this needs to be heard by anyone struggling with the loss of contact from their relatives.. for those who are not familiar with my background, i became a small thorn in the side of the wts while i was still in.

i'm not big on being deceived, and for me, the org crossed my personal 'red line' when it came to blood and the child abuse issue.

The Fall Guy

Jourles, your courage & experience and your mother's response is a defeat for the WTBTS's mind-control techniques.

Out of sight out of mind let's a parent who's shunning their child off the hook emotionally to a great extent, but when they're confronted by that lost child, the dark evil and inhumanity of the shunning & abandonment is overwhelmed by the greatest force in the world - love!

Parents who deny their parenthood when face-face with their offspring in such a situation, either consciously or sub-consciously must seriously detest what they have done, and continue to do.

I hope you can reunite with your mother soon.

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When 2 want to visit.

by stillin in

some of the local witnesses have been by, periodically, to check on us and say that they miss us.

i consider that a decent thing to do since they figure that we're going to die any day now from the loving god.

some have been elders, who have to always stay distant so that they don't somehow get contaminated by being too nice to us.

The Fall Guy

Alarm bells, alarm bells!!

Whenever two elders say they want to have a conversation with you on the same occasion, they have only one thing on their mind - the two witness rule!

They are looking for info from you which requires corroboration by them both.

Are JW publishers required to visit other JW publishers in pairs? Nope - just elders.

Ask each elder to visit you on their own, and see what response you get!

When I was first offered a shepherding call over two years ago, I informed the elder (very nice man) that I would not sit in a room with two elders again. He told me that he'd gladly come on his own. I said great.

I'm still waiting.

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UK Prime Minister about to get booted out?

by The Fall Guy in

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46532747.

changing the driver of a runaway (brexit) train which is speeding towards a broken down bridge over a chasm is going to do a lot of good.

why not just stop the train?.

The Fall Guy

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46532747

Changing the driver of a runaway (Brexit) train which is speeding towards a broken down bridge over a chasm is going to do a lot of good. :(

Why not just stop the train?

Mrs. May point blank refuses to allow the British electorate the opportunity to change their minds, but she postponed the Parliamentary vote on her terrible deal, hoping that M.P.'s will change their minds, and now she's running around Europe trying to get EU bosses to change their minds!

She probably deserves to go now.

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Fast food delivery service?

by The Fall Guy in

after seeing this, i think i'll just go and collect it myself!.

watch the video in the article - and imagine that it was you who was waiting for this food.. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-46522548.

The Fall Guy

After seeing this, I think I'll just go and collect it myself!

Watch the video in the article - and imagine that it was you who was waiting for this food.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-46522548

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Abuse Survivor's $4M Judgment Against Jehovah's Witness Umbrella Organization Upheld by Court 12/10/18

by Not_Culty in

https://www.law.com/newyorklawjournal/2018/12/10/court-upholds-abuse-survivors-4m-judgement-against-jehovahs-witness-umbrella-organization-389-52222/?slreturn=20181111101406.

The Fall Guy

So delighted to hear that JW.BORG has been done over yet again. May their agonies multiply.

Thank you very much for this post, as I've just shared the links with members in my previous congregation who I know will be very quick to share/gossip about it with other J.W.'s. Excellent! (Mr. Burns voice)

Page 13, Section 3: "That is because the sin of child abuse is often time described by elders who write to the Service Department by the Scriptural description of the specific sinful act, such as ‘porneia’."

Yup, first and foremost, the ~~WTBTS~~ cult & its elders view the raping of children as a sin - not a crime!